Listen to Kanye West on Bret Easton Ellis' Podcast

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Today Bret Easton Ellis debuted his new podcast, and he really swung for the fences with his first booking: none other than Kanye West.

West and Ellis of course are buddies -- Ellis wrote an American Psycho Kanye used to promote Yeezus; Kanye returned the favor by remixing the trailer for Ellis' The Canyons -- and so their rapport is easy and the conversation goes deep. There is talk about movies and 12 Years a Slave (Kanye's not sure he could make an album to match Steve McQueen's film), Zappos (Kanye thinks they sell "shit product"), the time Kanye and Kim binged watched Breaking Bad (so that they could "be like normal human beings"), and the "irony" of Kanye's self-assigned "creative genius" title. In his own words:

"If I were to write my title, like going through the airport, and you have to put down what you do, I would literally write 'creative genius:' except for two reasons: sometimes it takes to long to write that, and sometimes I spell the word 'genius' wrong. The irony."

Ironic, indeed! Listen to the hour-long segment here while you wait on Part 2. And if you're still fiending for more from the singular mind of Kanye, revisit the surprise lecture he gave at Harvard's GSD yesterday or re-read the 20,000 unfiltered words of classic Kanye from 2008.

Listen to Kanye West on Bret Easton Ellis' Podcast