Earlier in his career, Mac might’ve been a little bit more wide-eyed and more inclined to please people, but he’s sharpened his sword a lot. He’s more accustomed to the industry now. When he’s in a group of people, he has an almost Jedi-like aura, and people are drawn to him without him speaking so much. The first time he was on Funkmaster Flex, in 2012—he might not admit it to you, but I’ll say it—he was nervous. This time, he got up there and he sat down. He didn’t talk, he didn’t ask any questions, he didn’t say anything to me. I knew that he was on a different level, and he went out there and ripped it. If you watch the video, Flex is speechless. That was a defining moment of his growth.