Anyone remember that New York magazine article about "grups," adults who are dressing, consuming, acting and just generally living like young people? Yeah, well in hopes of raising their own ever-kids, some of them took their offspring to hang out with Thurston Moore and make noise jams. We're not totally against this, but we're not really for it, either. It is good that the people involved in creating the music were both significantly older and significantly younger than the grup parents making their kids play and listen to abrasive noise. Middle age is going to be rough.